
Capehart and Johnson on Harris' running mate shortlist
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Capehart and Johnson on Harris' running mate shortlist and Trump's latest attacks
Washington Post associate editor Jonathan Capehart and Washington Free Beacon editor-in-chief Eliana Johnson join Geoff Bennett to discuss the week in politics, including the success of Kamala Harris' campaign launch, Donald Trump's latest attacks on his opponent, the Democratic veepstakes and President Biden securing a prisoner swap to bring Americans home from Russia.
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Capehart and Johnson on Harris' running mate shortlist
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Washington Post associate editor Jonathan Capehart and Washington Free Beacon editor-in-chief Eliana Johnson join Geoff Bennett to discuss the week in politics, including the success of Kamala Harris' campaign launch, Donald Trump's latest attacks on his opponent, the Democratic veepstakes and President Biden securing a prisoner swap to bring Americans home from Russia.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipGEOFF BENNETT: On the major political stories# shaping the week, we turn to the analysis tonight## of Capehart and Johnson.
That's Jonathan Capehart,# associate editor for The Washington Post, and## Eliana Johnson, editor in chief of The Washington# Free Beacon.
David Brooks is away this evening.
Hello, hello.
JONATHAN CAPEHART: Hi, Geoff.
ELIANA JOHNSON, .. GEOFF BENNETT: S.. Democratic presidential nomination in# this virtual vote of party delegates.## This is the same day that the campaigns# says it raised $310 million in July.
This is the biggest haul of the 2024 cycle, more# than double what Donald Trump's campaign and the## RNC raised in the same month.
But, Jonathan, it# was far from a guarantee that Democrats would## remain as united and as energized as they have# been since V.P.
Harris emerged atop the ticket.
What do you make of this launch of hers# and this historic fund-raising haul?
JONATHAN CAPEHART: Well, the launch is pretty# spectacular.
I remember sitting here and saying,## if Joe -- Joe Biden needs to be the top the# ticket, and if he's not top the ticket, and## it's not Vice President Harris,# Democrats are going to lose.
And I said that because there were people talking,## there were moves afoot to leapfrog over the# sitting vice president for someone else.
That## did not happen.
And I think the way the vice# president comported herself through all of## this spoke well of her, the team around# her, her commitment to the president.
And I think that once the president endorsed# her, which was very, very important,## the level of enthusiasm went from zero# to 1,000 in a nanosecond.
And we see,## according to the Supreme Court, money is# speech.
So $310 million raised in just,## what -- in the month of July, but the bulk of# it in the last 10 days, that says something.
The Democratic Party is energized.
They're# thrilled.
And her campaign speeches and her## events show that it's not just that# they're -- you got a new candidate,## but there's some passion behind her.
GEOFF BENNETT: And, Eliana, for Donald Trump,# I mean, he's now facing criticism for falsely## claiming that Kamala Harris misled voters about# her race.
He's also having to defend his vice## president, J.D.
Vance, who's being scrutinized for# past comments he made disparaging childless women.
The vice president has a real record# that Republicans could scrutinize,## but Donald Trump keeps reverting to these# race- and gender-based attacks.
Why are## he and his campaign struggling to# find a line of attack that sticks?
ELIANA JOHNSON: One thing on# the Democrats before that is,## in terms of uniting the party and getting# people excited, it helps not to have a primary,## where Democratic candidates were pummeling# each other, which they managed to avoid.
In terms of Trump, yes, he's veering off# into bizarre spaces.
And what the Trump## campaign needs to do -- why is he doing# it?
He's not a particularly disciplined## messenger.
I don't think anybody's# particularly surprised to see this.
They need to settle on one message and one line# of attack against Kamala Harris, whether it's that## she's a San Francisco liberal whose views are out# of touch and to the left of those of the average## American, or that she's flip-flopped and changed# every position she held that she ran on in 2019.
And so if they do that, they can say she doesn't# believe in anything.
She's willing to say anything## in order to be elected president.
But pick# one and hammer it home every day.
I'm sure## that is what Susie Wiles and Chris# LaCivita, Trump's campaign managers,## are telling him to do, but Trump is Trump.
He's the same candidate he's always been.
GEOFF BENNETT: And, Jonathan, Democrats say# that they have learned their lesson from 2016,## that now, when Donald Trump attacks,# they try to respond aggressively,## but they use his attacks to# reemphasize their own message.
Are we seeing more of that?
JONATHAN CAPEHART: We are.
Well, here's the thing about the vice president# and her campaign's responses to the raci.. misogyny coming from Donald Trump.
She# does -- she gives it maybe one line in## any of her campaign speeches, and she moves# on to talking about the Biden/Harris record## and then what a Harris administration would# do if she's entrusted with the presidency.
So they're not paying attention -- they're not# giving it undue oxygen to keep it going.
And## so I think they're doing what they need to do.# Meanwhile, on the social media side, however,## they're all over it, I mean, so many memes, so# many little videos that the young people can share## where she -- where the campaign is responding# to the ridiculousness, particularly from NABJ,## with Donald Trump saying she turned Black,# which has set off a whole meme on its own.
GEOFF BENNETT: Well, we expect that the# vice president could name her running## mate any time this weekend, certainly by Tuesday,## when she and her running mate are expected to# have their first appearance in Philadelphia.
And I'm told that she has settled, she's# narrowed her list of finalists to these six,## Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear,# Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg,## Arizona's Senator Mark Kelly,# Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker,## Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, and, of# course, Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro.
So this is according to two sources familiar.
Eliana, the conventional wisdom has# always been that a V.P.
pick doesn't## really matter in the grand scheme of things.# Is that different in this election cycle?
ELIANA JOHNSON: I think it could be,## in that Harris has a more difficult# row to hoe in the Electoral College.
And so, if I were her -- the Harris# campaign is not asking me for advice.
(LAUGHTER) ELIANA JOHNSON: I would pick# someone .. And some of these candidates# could help her marginally,## given that they come from states that are# very competitive, Mark Kelly in Arizona,## though I think he has too much personal baggage.# He had a very testy divorce in 2004, and Josh## Shapiro in Pennsylvania.
And, for that reason, I# think those two are probably the front-runners.
My money would probably be on Shapiro, but# I have no special insight into this process.
GEOFF BENNETT: Jonathan, do you have# special insight into this process?
JONATHAN CAPEHART: I have no# special insight into this process.
JONATHAN CAPEHART: But I will say, I# mean, every four years, we talk about,## well, the vice presidential# pick doesn't really matter.
But tell that to John McCain in 2008,# where Sarah Palin looked real great.
I## was in the hall when she gave the hockey# mom, hockey mom speech and thought, ooh,## Obama's going to have some issues here, and# then, within a couple of weeks, completely## imploded.
And so the vice presidential pick# does have an impact, as Donald Trump is seeing.
ELIANA JOHNSON: I actually# don't agree with that on Palin,## though.
I think McCain -- I think Palin# actually helped the McCain ticket,## even though, in retrospect, people# think, oh, she was a total moron.
I think McCain got more votes with# Palin on that ticket because she## excited women at the time than# he otherwise would have gotten.
JONATHAN CAPEHART: Initially, but come# on, a couple Katie Couric interviews... ELIANA JOHNSON: I don't think she hurt him.
JONATHAN CAPEHART: ... Charlie# Gi.. ELIANA JOHNSON: I don't think she hurt him.
GEOFF BENNETT: Well, as we end our conversation,## I want to talk about the fact that Wall# Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich## and former U.S. Marine Paul Whelan were among# those two dozen detainees released as part of## the biggest prisoner exchange between# Russia and the West since the Cold War.
Lasting takeaways.
President Biden# said it was a feat of diplomacy.
JONATHAN CAPEHART: Yes, not bad for# an 82-year-old man everyone said had## cognitive decline and were questioning# his mental acuity.
When you read what was## that -- the ticktock of what happened in The# Wall Street Journal, that man was all over it.
This was a huge diplomatic feat, but this was also# a huge victory for the United States and for the## American people.
To bring those Americans home is# something that should be universally celebrated.
GEOFF BENNETT: And the detail that he# was on the phone with his Slovenian## counterpart basically coordinating this# deal just an hour before he announced## that he wouldn't seek reelection,# I mean, how does that strike you?
JONATHAN CAPEHART: Well, that# example is something that,## when I have interviewed -- I have the# president twice.
And in both interviews,## I came away with one really distinct# impression.
He loves that job.
And the fact that he's got all of this stuff going# on, but he is on the phone trying to make a deal,## that's why he wants to be president.
That's why he# loves the job.
It's about getting something done.
GEOFF BENNETT: Eliana?
ELIANA JOHNSON: It's wonderful that# they're home.
However, w.. stop doing deals where we trade terrorists# and assassins for reporters and dissidents.
And what dictator wouldn't take more hostages# to make that deal?
And in order to do that,## we need to impose serious consequences on the# hostage-taking nations.
And that is not something## I have seen from the Biden administration.# If we continue to do deals like this,## we will find more Americans behind bars,# unjustly detained in despotic nations.
GEOFF BENNETT: Eliana Johnson and# Jonathan Capehart, thank you both.
JONATHAN CAPEHART: Thanks, Geoff.
ELIANA JOHNSON: Thank you.
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