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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>>> THAT SEEMS FAIR TO ME.
>> FAIRNESS ISN'T THE ISSUE.
>> I DON'T REALLY THINK -- >> WRONG!
>> IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT FAIR IS, YOU CAN'T MAKE IT -- [ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ] [ BOING ] [ SOUNDS OF GLASS BREAKING ] >> Announcer: DONNYBROOK IS MADE POSSIBLE THROUGH THE GENEROUS SUPPORT OF THE MEMBERS OF KETC.
>> WELL, THANKS FOR JOINING US FOR ANOTHER EDITION OF DONNYBROOK.
GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US AND THANKS TO OUR FRIENDS AT THE GATESWORTH TO MAKING THIS PROGRAM POSSIBLE, AS THEY HAVE WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT.
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LET'S MEET THOSE WHO ARE ASSEMBLED AROUND THE BIG TABLE HERE AT THE NINE NETWORK.
STARTING WITH STACY WASHINGTON FROM 97.1 FM NEWS TALK SITTING IN FOR THE VACATIONING WENDY WIESE AND FROM COLLATERAL DAMAGE AT KDHX, THE ONE AND ONLY DJ WILSON WHO ALSO WRITES AT STLMAG.COM AND THE GRAND PUBA AND ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF THE SHOW, RAY HARTMANN.
AND FROM THE ST.
LOUIS AMERICAN, STLMAG.COM, I SEE A PATTERN HERE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, ALVIN REID.
WE NEED A COLUMN FOR STLMAG.COM, BUT ALSO STACY WITH THE POST-DISPATCH -- >> I WAS GOING TO SAY, I DON'T HAVE TIME TO WRITE A COLUMN FOR STLM STLMAG, BUT I'LL DEFINITELY PUTTING THAT OWE MY LIST.
YOU KNOW HOW IT IS WHEN YOU WRITE SOMETHING DOWN, BOOM, LATER IT HAPPENS.
>> THE PAY IS GOOD.
THE PAY IS GOOD.
>> LET'S NOT MAKE A TOPIC OUT OF THAT.
[ LAUGHTER ] >> YEAH, WE CAN PROBABLY ARGUE THAT ONE.
SO BRIEFLY, BECAUSE IT IS AN ISSUE THAT DOES AFFECT ST.
LOUIS BECAUSE WE HAVE WELCOMED MORE THAN 300 SYRIAN REFUGEES INTO OUR COMMUNITY, THREE-JUDGE PANEL BASED IN SAN FRANCISCO, NINTH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS HAS AGREED WITH A WASHINGTON JUDGE THAT IMMIGRANTS AND REFUGEES THAT HAD BEEN BANNED BY THE PRESIDENT'S EXECUTIVE ORDER CAN CONTINUE TO COME TO THE UNITED STATES, SO THIS CASE IS STILL EVOLVING, BUT FOR THE TIME BEING, SYRIAN REFUGEES CAN STILL COME TO ST.
LOUIS.
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?
>> I FEEL GOOD.
IT'S A GOOD VICTORY FOR THE FIRST AMENDMENT, CERTAINLY TEMPORARY BECAUSE I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO -- I KNOW THEY'RE APPEALING IT TO THE SUPREME COURT.
THE BIGGER STORY WILL BE DONALD TRUMP, YOU KNOW, INFANTILE REACTION, TWEETS AND UNAPPRECIATE -- >> LET'S STAY ON TOPIC.
>>, NO, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE REACTION.
I THINK IT IS A MUSLIM BAN.
HOPEFULLY THE COURTS CONTINUE TO UPHOLD THE FIST AMENDMENT, BUT I THINK THE INTERESTING THING WILL BE THE REACTION TO THEIR ACTION BECAUSE HE ATTACKED JUDGE ROBART,S APPOINTED BY GEORGE W. BUSH, WAS AS ONE OF THESE THREE JUDGES, SO THAT WOULD BE THE BIG STORY IS HIS REACTION.
>> I DON'T THINK IT'S A BIG STORY.
>> I THINK IT'S A GOOD STORY -- >> THE STORY IS WHETHER OR NOT REFUGEES SHOULD BE COMING TO THE UNITED STATES.
>> THE ANSWER IS YES.
>> HOW DO YOU FELL ABOUT THAT, STACY?
>> I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THEM COMING TO THE UNITED STATES.
ONE OF THE REASONS WE CAN HELP SO MANY PEOPLE IS WE HAVE SUCH AN ADVANCED REPUBLIC, AN AMAZING SOCIETY, AND WE CAN'T FIT THEM ALL, BUT THEY WOULD LOVE TO BE HERE.
THE QUESTION THAT I SEE AND SO MANY AMERICANS SEE IS THIS ISN'T ABOUT A MUSLIM BAN, IT'S REVAMPING THE REFUGEE RESETTLEMENT SYSTEM TO TAKE CARE OF SOME DIFFICULTIES THAT TRUMP SAYS HE HAS DISCOVERED SINCE HE HAS GONE INTO THE NATIONAL SECURITY BRIEFINGS HE GETS THAT WE DON'T GET.
AND I PERSONALLY FIND IT INSULTING THAT INSTEAD OF TAKING IT AS WHAT IT IS, WHICH IS A TEMPORARY ORDER, SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND ADDRESS INEFFICIENCIES, WE TURNING THIS INTO SOME KIND OF A AISHL AND MI MUSS THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE.
AS AN AMERICAN, I FEEL IT IS OUR RIGHT TO SAY WHO CAN COME IN AND WHEN THEY COME IN AND IF WE WANT TO MAKE A FOSS FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT BEING IMPOOND AND CHARACTER MALIGNED.
>> IT WAS A FLAWED ORDER AND THE COURTS THREW IT OUT.
IT WASN'T -- THAT'S NOT A RADICAL OVERTHROW.
THE COURTS FOUND IT NOT TO BE -- AND NOW IT GOES TO THE SUPREME COURT AND IT WILL BE 4-4 AND GO TO THE LOWER COURTS AND PROBABLY STAND.
>> I THINK THE VETTING PROCESS IS SUFFICIENT.
I THINK THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.
IT TAKES TWO OR THREE YEARS AND I THINK THE CONDITION OF THE SYRIAN REFUGEES IS SO BAD IN THOSE JORDAN CAMPS THAT IT'S NECESSARY -- THEY'RE GOING INTO OTHER COUNTRIES NEW HAMPSHIRE GREATER NUMBERS, CANADA EUROPE, AND WE'RE VETTING THEM MUCH STRICTER THAN CANADA.
CANADA, THE PROCESS IS THEE MONTHS AND WE'RE DOING TWO TO THREE YEARS AND THE CONDITIONS THESE PEOPLE ARE IN RIGHT NOW ARE SO BAD, IT SEEMS TO ME IT'S THE THING TO DO.
>> I WANT TO MAKE ONE MORE POINT.
DONALD TRUMP RAN ON AMERICA FIRST AND LOOKING AT THIS PROGRAM, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE IN BAD SHAPE.
SO ARE MULTIPLE TENS OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS.
>> NOD THAT BAD, NOT THAT BAD.
>> I THINK PEOPLE IN APPALACHIAN AREAS WOULD DIFFER WITH YOU.
>> I THINK SOME THINGS UN-AMERICAN, I NEVER MYSELF, NOR I DO KNOW ANYBODY, IMPUNEG THE MOTIVES -- >> ABSOLUTELY PEOPLE ARE DOING THAT.
THEY'RE SAYING -- [ ALL TALKING AT ONCE ] AND WRITING BIT.
IT'S A RIDICULOUS -- THIS IS THE DIFFICULTY THAT WE'RE HAVING -- >> I DIDN'T SAY -- >> I'M NOT SAYING YOU, RAY, BUT THE FACT IS, THE REASON WHY EVERYONE IS SO EMOTIONALLY CHARGED ABOUT THIS IS PEOPLE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE ORDER WITHOUT SAYING THINGS, LIKE YOU SAID, DONALD TRUMP IS AN EMOTIONAL BABY, HE'S -- >> I THINK HE'S WORSE THAN THAT.
HE'S WORSE THAN THAT.
>> DJ?
>> IF HE WANTED TO GET THIS DONE, HE SCREWED UP BECAUSE IT'S NOT GETTING DONE.
>> THIS IS THE FIRST TIME A PRESIDENT IN AMERICA HAS EVER SCREWED UP OR DONE ANYTHING IMPROPER?
>> STACY, I WANT TO MOVE ON TO ANOTHER TOPIC.
THIS WEEK MISSOURI MADE NEWS AND BECAME THE 28th STATE TO ENACT RIGHT-TO-WORK, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY DUES TO WORK HERE ANYWHERE.
NOT THAT NEW, 28 STATES, BUT I WAS VERY IMPRESSED IS EVEN THOUGH I'M AGAINST THIS RIGHT-TO-WORK, WITH THE SPEED OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND THE GOVERNOR.
I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING HAPPEN THIS QUICKLY IN MISSOURI IN A LONG TIME.
>> I THINK GOVERNOR GREITENS IS GOING TO MOVE QUICKLY THROUGH HIS PROMISES THAT HE MADE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
I THINK IT WAS FANTASTIC FOR HIM TO DO IT THIS FAST AND FOR THEM TO GET THE LEGISLATURE TO WORK WITH HIM IN THAT WAY.
RIGHT-TO-WORK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN IF HE WAS ELECTED GOVERNOR, SO THIS IS NOT A SURPRISE.
I ALSO THINK THAT IT'S INTERESTING THAT NO ONE IS SUSPECTING THESE SUNSET POSITIONS HE PUT IN.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF THE CONTRACT IS NOT RENEGOTIATED, IT STANDS AS IT IS.
THE RIGHT-TO-WORK DOESN'T TAKE EFFECT UNTIL THE KRPT ARE RENOESHTZ, SO HE'S EASING THE IMPLEMENTATION AND THERE'S A BALLOT INITIATIVE TO SEE IF THEY CAN TAKE IT TO A REFERENDUM SO VOTERS HAVE TO VOTE IT ON AND MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO DO OR IMPOSSIBLE TO DO ACCORDING TO THE MISSOURI CONSTITUTION.
>> I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUTOUT TO WILL SCHMIDT IN THE SPRINGFIELD PAPER THAT GREITENS SIGNED THE BILL AT A FACTORY IN SPRINGFIELD, AN EXAMPLE OF A RIGHT-TO-WORK UNION AND THIS WILL SCHMIDT REPORTER TRACKED DOWN THE OWNER OF THE BUSINESS AND SAID THE CLOSINGS OF THAT FACTORY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH UNIONS.
IT HAD TO DO WITH CHEAP LABOR IN CHINA AND INDIA AND KOREA.
THIS IS A POLITICAL PLACEBO, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
>> THE WALL STREET JOURNAL HAS A STORY ABOUT MANUFACTURING HEADING TO MEXICO AND TWO OF THE FIRMS THAT ARE TAKING THEIR EMPLOYEES AND SENDING THEM TO MEXICO ARE IN INDIANA, RIGHT-TO-WORK.
ONE IN ELK HEART AND THE OTHER IN INDIANAPOLIS.
>> THERE ARE TEN DIFFERENT REASONS THAT PLANTS MOVE AND THAT MIGHT BE ONE OF THE TEN, BUT IT'S NOT THE REASON.
>> I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT IF YOU TOOK THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR ERIC GREITENS, OKAY?
YOU WOULD -- I THINK IT WOULD BE IN LARGE NUMBER THOSE SAME PEOPLE ARE IN UNIONS THAT ARE AGAINST THIS RIGHT-TO-WORK.
I THINK THAT IT'S ONE OF THOSE, LIKE, WELL, OKAY, IF YOU'RE FEELINGS ARE HURT, THEN, YOU KNOW, WHO DID YOU VOTE FOR?
AND I THINK YOU WOULD FIND OUT THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE VOTED FOR ERIC GREITENS AND YOU KNEW WHAT HE WAS ABOUT, SO I MEAN THAT'S ON YOU.
>> I WOULD ADD TO THIS, I AM NOT IMPRESSED WITH THE SPEED WITH WHICH -- WE'VE GOT MEGA JORTS IN BOTH HOUSES AND I GUESS IF YOU FIND IT IMPRESSIVE THAT THEY DID THE DEAL WITHOUT OWN BOTHERING TO ACT LIKE THERE'S TWO SIDES TO THIS ISSUE, I GET THAT.
I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S IMPRESSIVE.
>> NO, I'M NOT -- [ ALL TALKING AT ONCE ] >> I'M NOT DEGREES IMPRESSED AT ALL.
>> WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME SOMETHING HAPPENED IN FOUR WEEKS?
>> ALL THEY DID WAS ROUB BER STAMP SOMETHING AND I DON'T THINK IT'S PERSONALLY GOING TO MOVE ANY NEEDLE AT ALL AND I THINK ITS BIGGEST IMPACT, WHICH IS PURELY POLITICAL, IS ON THE STRENGTH OF ORGANIZED LABOR, WHICH WILL BE TRANSLATED INTO -- >> AGAIN, RAY -- >> LET ME FINISH, LET ME FINISH, PLEASE.
LET ME FINISH.
I THINK THE STRENGTH, THE ULTIMATE BIGGEST IMPACT IN MISSOURI WILL BE ON THE DIMINISHING ORGANIZED LABOR'S KITTY FOR DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES BECAUSE WHILE THERE WAS RIGHT-TO-WORK TO FIGHT, ORGANIZED LABOR WAS GIVING MORE MONEY THAN THEY WILL NOW AND I THINK THAT WILL BE THE BIGGEST IMPACT IT HAS ON THE STATE.
>> I WOULD WAIT AND SEE ON THAT.
>> I WOULD SAY THAT NOW THAT IT'S PASSED, WE HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE.
>> WELL, SURE.
>> STATISTICALLY SPEAKING, THERE ARE STUDIES THAT SHOW THAT BUSINESSES ARE MORE LIKELY TO RESETTLE OR MOVE HEADQUARTERS AND MANUFACTURING SITES TO STATES THAT ARE RIGHT-TO-WORK.
>> THEY'RE ALSO STUDIES THAT SHOW THAT WAMES WILL GO DOWN -- >> AND THERE ARE STUDIES THAT THOUGH THAT REAL EARNINGS ARE UP BECAUSE THEY GET BETTER SERVICE FROM OUR UNIONS BECAUSE THE UNIONS HAVE TO PAY CLOSER ATTENTION TO THEM BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE AN OPTION.
>> THAT COULD BE, BUT I THINK -- >> WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
>> IT'S A TOUGH ROW TO HOE FOR UNIONS, BUT IF MERYL STREEP BELONGED TO A UNION I DON'T THINK I COULD BETTER ON MY OWN.
DJ, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, A FEW FOLLOW THAT YOU LOOK A LOOK AT AT STLMAG.COM, HAS LYDA KREWSON UP 36%, WAY BEYOND HER COMPETITORS IN THE RACE.
AND ALSO THIS WEEK A STINGING LETTER SENT BY ST.
LOUIS TREASURER TISHAURA JONES TO THE POST-DISPATCH SAYING THAT THE PAPER IS THINLY VEILED RACISM AND WONDERED WHY THERE ISN'T A BLACK INDIVIDUAL ON THE EDITORIAL BOARD, AND CASEY CORDES, THE DAUGHTER OF DAN CORDES THREW HER HAT IN AS AN INDEPENDENT.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS?
>> THIS WAS FEBRUARY THE 9th TODAY, AND THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY IS IN MARCH AND WE HAVE SEVEN CANDIDATES, FOUR OF FIVE OF WHOM ARE THE FRONT-RUNNERS AND TISHAURA JONES SAW EARLY ON SHE WASN'T GETTING FAVORABLE TREATMENT FROM THE POST-DISPATCH.
I THINK THE STORIES THAT RAN ABOUT HER WERE OVERPLAYED.
SHE HELD A PRESS CONFERENCE SEVERAL WEEKS AGO TO ATTACK A STORY ABOUT HER TRAVEL.
SO IF HER STRATEGY OF ATTACKING THE PRESIDENT, I THINK IN THIS CASE, IT MAKES SENSE FOR HER BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE PRESS IS GOING TO ENDORSE HER IN ANY WAY.
THERE'S A PART OF THE AGGRESSIVE LEFT THAT DOESN'T TRUST MAINSTREAM ANYWAY, SO ATTACKING THE PRESS THE NOT THAT BAD.
THE COLUMN THAT THE ROBERSON GUY WROTE SAID BASICALLY THAT'S TRYING TO -- HE SOUNDED TOUGH, LIKE HE WANTED TO HAVE POLICIES FOR BLIGHT AND HE WAS AFRAID OF WALKING HIS DOG AT NIGHT IN THE CITY AND SHE TOOK OFF ON THAT.
I THINK IT'S A STRATEGY THAT WORKS FOR HER.
SHE DECLINED A MEETING WITH THE EDITORIAL BOARD.
FIRST OF ALL, I HATE TO SAY IT AS A JOURNALIST, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T READ THE POST-DISPATCH.
IT'S DECLINED IN TERMS OF INFLUENCE AND CIRCULATION AND AS FAR AS POLLS FOR LYDA KREWSON, IT DOES SHOW HER AHEAD AND SHE'S THE FAVORITE.
SHE'S BEEN ENDORSED BY SLAY AND IT WAS A LAND LINE POLL AND HAS OTHER FLAWS.
THERE ARE FOUR WEEKS TO GO AND A LOT OF THINGS CAN HAPPEN.
AND ALSO THE ST.
LOUIS MAGAZINE THAT COMES OUT IN A FEW WEEKS, I LOOKED AT THE DEMOGRAPHIC, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF ST.
LOUIS WITH A KREJ DEGREE HAS DOUBLED IN THE LAST NINE YEARS.
>> IF THEY VOTE.
>> A FOR AGO, I LOOKED AT -- MONTH AGO, I LOOKED AT THE CAMERA AND I SAID THE POST-DISPATCH IS GOING TO ENDORSE LYDA KREWSON.
IT'S SILLY TO EVEN DEBATE THAT, WHICH IS WHY I APPLAUD HER FOR SAYING WHAT SHE SAID.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS ABOUT THE MAYOR, BUT THE POST BASIS IN WAYS THAT I AGREE WITH TISHAURA 100%, AND WHAT I FIND GALLING IS WHEN SHE WINS OR IF SHE WERE TO WIN, THE DAY SHE MADE HER SPEECH, IT WILL BE ABOUT ST.
LOUIS COMING TOGETHER AND THE POST WILL BE TALKING ABOUT ST.
LOUIS COMING TOGETHER LIKE THEY'RE THE BIG CHAMPION OF DIVERSITY, BUT YOU PULL STUNTS LIKE THIS.
JUST SAVE IT.
SHE'S SICK OF IT AND I THINK A LOT OF ST.
LOUIS IS SICK OF IT AND WHILE IT HAS ITS OWN PROBLEMS AND THERE'S TOO MANY CANDIDATES, IT'S MORE THAN A FEEL.
IT'S A FACT.
>> WE TALKED ABOUT THE RACIAL IMBALANCE IN THIS RACE WITH ONE WHITE CANDIDATE, SEVERAL BLACK CANDIDATES AND I THINK SHE IS ACHIEVING A GOAL.
FIRST OF ALL, SHE HAS CANTOR'S ENDORSEMENT THIS WEEK AND SHE WILL GET -- I DISAGREE WITH THOSE THAT THINK IT'S ALL GOING TO COME DOWN TO RACE OR MOSTLY TO RACE.
I THINK SHE IS GOING TO GET FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL BLOCK OF WHITE VOTERS.
DJ HAS POINTED SOMETHING OUT.
THE POLLS WERE LAND LINE ONLY AND THAT'S JUST -- THAT'S NOT A LEFT-RIGHT, BLACK-WHITE, DEMOCRAT-REPUBLICAN, WHY ANYONE WOULD DO ANYTHING WITH LAND LINES ONLY IS SIMPLY UNREPRESENTATIVE.
>> YOU WANT TO RELEASE A POLL THAT SAYS I'M -- >> I'M SAYING ANY POLL AND I DON'T CARE WHO IT WOULD BE FOR, ANY POLL SUCH AS LAND LINE ONLY IS -- >> BUT BACK TO THIS.
I THINK TISHAURA JONES HAS A VERY GOOD CHANCE TO WIN AND AS A CHANGE CANDIDATE, AND THIS EFFORT SHE DID WITH THE POST I THINK INCREASES THAT CHANCE.
>> WHAT ABOUT THIS CASEY CORDES, A U.S.
BANK EXECUTIVE?
>> I THINK THAT'S AN INTERESTING PERSON TO JUMP IN.
SHE REPRESENTS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY IN THE RACE.
YOU SAID ONLY ONE WHITE CANDIDATE.
SHE'S VERY KNOWN TO ST.
LOUISANS.
THIS CORDES PERSON, YOUNGER, COMES FROM A BUSINESS BACKGROUND WITH MASTER'S DEGREE FROM COLUMBIA.
THEY HAS A UNIQUE SKILL SET, REAL ESTATE BACKGROUND AND IN THE COMMENTS ABOUT THINGS SHE SAYS SHE WANTS TO DO, IT SOUNDS VERY MUCH LIKE THAT DEMOGRAPHIC YOU SAY IS DOUBLING IN THE CITY.
THE COLLEGE-EDUCATED DEMOGRAPHIC, IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO HEAR FROM HER.
WE'RE HAVING A DEBATE ON ANOTHER PROJECT WE'RE WORKING ON AND I GET TO BE ONE OF THE MODERATORS, BUT SHE'S A LATE ENTRANT.
>> LATE TO THE PARTY.
YOU TAKE THE WORDS RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH.
>> ANTONIO FRENCH AND TISHAURA JONES WILL SPLIT THE VOTE AND THAT'S PROBLEM FOR BOTH OF THOME FM IF AND IF SHE RUNS AGAINST LYDA KREWSON IN THE PRIMARY, THAT'S A POUR CONTENTIOUS -- SHE'S MORE PROGRESSIVE AND HAS A CHANCE.
>> SHE'LL SURVIVE THE PRIMARY.
>> BUT THERE WILL ONLY BE ONE DEMOCRAT, EITHER LYDA OR TISHAURA OR ANTONIO.
I WISH HER WELL, BUT IT'S A LONG SHOT.
>> LET ME ASK YOU, ALVIN REID, ABOUT ERIC GREITENS, THE GOVERNOR, ACCORDING TO AN ARTICLE IN THE MISSOURI TIMES, HE BUTTONHOLED A BUNCH OF STATE SENATORS ONE BY ONE IN THE OFFICE.
SENATORS WANT TO INCREASE THEIR PAY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN TEN YEARS BY A PERCENT OR TWO.
SEEMS REASONABLE, BUT NEVER POLITICALLY POPULAR.
GREITENS WAS ACTUALLY ACRIMONIOUS AND SAYING TO ONE GUY, I CAN TELL BY YOUR BEADY EYES, YOU'RE AFRAID OF ME, AND THE STATE SENATOR SAID, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO, WATERBOARD ME?
APPARENTLY ONE BY ONE, HE TRIED TO USE HIS PERSONAL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, TO CONVINCE THEM TO VOTE HIS WAY AND I BELIEVE HE PREVAILED AT THE END OF THE DAY, NO PAY RAISE.
>> THAT IS TRUE, AND MAYBE HE CHAUX THAT UP AS A VICTORY AND MAYBE I DOESN'T, BUT SOME OF THE THINGS HE REPORTED SAID TO GROWN MEN ELECTED TO OFFICE, WHETHER I AGREE WITH HIS POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY OR NOT, BUT I WOULD TELL THEM IF YOU LET THAT MAN SIT ACROSS THAT TABLE AND TALK TO YOU LIKE THAT, WHAT'S NEXT?
YOU'RE A NIF VERY WELLING COWARD.
THAT'S RIDICULOUS.
>> CAN I JUST ADD IN A BIT OF PERSPECTIVE?
I TOTALLY RESPECT WHETHER YOU SAD.
I THINK THE BEST THING IN THE WORLD IS A MAN'S MAN, DO IT, BE A MAN, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE WHO, ONE OF HIS CAMPAIGN ADS WAS HIM BLOWING THINGS UP.
HE TAKES APART GUNS BLIND FOLDS.
HE'S A NAVY SEAL.
HE COMES FROM A MILITARY BACKGROUND WHERE WHEN PEOPLE MAKE SMOKES, INSTEAD OF -- MISTAKES, INSTEAD OF LET'S SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT IT, PEOPLE GET CURSED OUT.
IT'S THE MILITARY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO TRANSLATE WELL INTO GOVERNING.
WE'LL SEE IF HE TEMPERS THAT, I HOPE HE WOULD.
BUT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF A VETERAN, I'VE STOOD IN SOMEONE'S FACE AND HAD THEM DRESS ME DOWN AND THEIR SPIT THE RAINING ON ME.
THIS IS THE SAME KIND OF THING.
>> IN A NEWSPAPER, IN A NEWSROOM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE SAID FACE-TO-FACE ABOUT BUSINESS, OKAY?
BUT WE'RE TALKING AS PEERS.
WE START THAT TALKING DOWN TO ME, I'M THE GOVERNOR'S PAEAN -- >> AND I WON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.
>> FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
HOWEVER, A DEMOCRACY WAS NOT REALLY DESIGNED TO FUNCTION THAT WAY AND WE -- YOU KNOW, DESPITE WHAT I THINK ABOUT TRUMP, I'LL GO WITH THE, LET'S GIVE GREITENS THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT WHEN HE STARTS.
YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T VOTE FOR HIM, BUT, YOU KNOW, HE SAID SOME OF THE RIGHT THINGS ABOUT THE SOCCER STADIUM AND LET'S SEE WHAT HE DOES.
LAST WEEK, HE JUST UNCEREMONIOUSLY FIRED THE PUBLIC COUNSEL, A REALLY GOOD PUBLIC COUNSEL, VERY LITTLE COVERAGE OF THAT AND HE'S ACTING LIKE THIS TO MEMBERS OF HIS OWN PARTY WHO HE'S CALLED OUT.
I WOULD SAY WHATEVER PROMISE HE'S SHOWING IS DIMINISHING.
>> I DON'T THINK IT'S GOOD THAT HE SPEAKS TO FELLOWS AND WOMEN BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AND THEN TWEETS ABOUT IT ACRIMINAL MOANUSLY, BUT -- ACRIMONIOUSLY.
BUT HE IS RIGHT.
AT THIS TIME WHEN THEY'RE CUTTING HIGHER EDUCATION, WHEN THEY'RE CUTTING SENIOR -- >> NO, HE'S RIGHT ABOUT THAT.
>> HE IS RIGHT AT THE END OF THE DAY.
>> BUT THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT, AND AGAIN, I DON'T DISDREE WITH THAT.
I THINK HE IS, BUT LET'S JUST SEE.
>> MAYBE THAT'S THE WAY TO DO IT.
>> I DON'T THINK IT'S THE RIGHT APPROACH.
>> RAY, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT CONCEALED CARRY.
APPARENTLY YOU CAN CONCEAL CARRY NOW IN THE STATE CAPITOL AND -- BUT YOU CAN'T TAKE YOUR FIREARMS INTO THE CHAMBERS OR INTO THE HEARING ROOMS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?
>> I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD ABE TO CONCEAL CARRY INTO THE CAPITOL, OKAY?
CLEARLY.
BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO LIVE IN THE WILD WEST AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT KIND OF MENTALITY FROM OUR LEGISLATORS, IT'S VERY HYPOCRITE CAL OF THEM TO SAY IT'S OKAY TO CARE TO THE CAPITOLING BUT WHERE WE'RE MEETING, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO BRING YOUR GUN IN HERE.
IT'S VERY HYPOCRITE CAL.
I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO PACK A FIREARM INTO OUR STATE CAPITOL.
>> I'M AN NRA MEMBER, AND I DEFINITELY THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE CONTROL OVER WHAT CARRY, IF THEY WANT TO PERMIT FIREARMS IN.
BASED ON THE FACT THAT IT'S -- THIS IS WHERE THEY WORK AND THEY'RE OUR GOVERNING BODY.
OBVIOUSLY, I BELIEVE THE SECOND AMENDMENT SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, SO I FOUNTAIN IT INTERESTING THAT THEY'RE NOT -- FOUND IT INTERESTING THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWING IT IN THE HEARING ROOM, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE IMPETUS FOR THAT AND THEY HAVE THE STATE TROOPERS THERE TO GUARD THOSE ROOMS, ON THEY HAVE GUNS PRESENT IN CASE SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN.
>> I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE GUN LAWS, BUT LOGISTICS.
IF I'M THERE TO DO HARM TO SOMEONE, AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, IT IS CERTAINLY MUCH EASIER IF I ALREADY HAVE THE GUN INSIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT THEY ARE IN.
>> I'M SORRY, SINCE WHEN DO CRIMINALS PAY ATTENTION TO LAWS?
IF A CRIMINAL IS PLANNING ON DOING HARM, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SAY I'M ALLOWED TO HAVE THE GUN HERE, BUT NOT HERE.
HOW DO I GET THIS THROUGH?
>> BUT OVER THE LAST PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, AMERICAN HISTORY IS WHILE YOU ARE A CRIMINAL DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, CRIME, IT IS NOT LIKE YOUR RANDOM CRIME.
THEY ARE DRIVEN BY SOMETHING FAR MORE THAN I'M ROBBING SOMEBODY.
>> IT'S STILL NOT OKAY.
>> IT'S A BAD IDEA.
BY THE WAY, THIS SAME LEGISLATURE, I THINK YOU CAN STILL SMOKE IN THE CAPITOL, BUT YOU CAN'T SMOKE IN ANY PUBLIC BUILDING IN ALL OF STWLUZ WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH -- >> WHY IS IT -- AGAIN, I'M AGAINST LETTING GUNS IN OUR CAPITOL, WHICH I GUESS IS SOME RADICAL POSITION, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO LET THEM N WHAT'S THE REASON OR RATIONAL NAL FOR SAYING IN THIS ROOM YOU CAN HAVE ONE AND THAT ROOM YOU CAN'T.
WHY?
IF IT'S SAFE FOR ALL OF US, WHY -- >> IF GUNS MAKE THE AREA SAFER.
>> WHY DO YOU LOSE YOUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT IN THE HEARINGS?
>> I'M ASSUMING THE REASON THEY DON'T WANT THEM IN THE HEARING ROOMS IS BECAUSE THE TESTIMONY AND OFTENTIMES THE DISAGREEMENTS CAN BECOME VERY VOLATILE, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
I HAVEN'T ASKED ANYONE.
>> THE ARGUMENT WE HAVE AGAINST THE POSSIBILITY OF ROAD RAGE TURNING FATAL BECAUSE -- >> BUT THEIR ABILITY TO DEFEND THEMSELVES, THIS IS NOT AN EQUAL COMPARISON.
WE'RE NOT SAYING THERE ARE NO GUNS IN THAT AREA.
[ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ] >> LET ALONE IN THE CAPITOL.
>> NO, FEDERAL BUILDING.
>> WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY GUNS HERE BECAUSE -- >> FEDERAL BUILDING, EXACTLY.
>> ALVIN, LET'S MOVE ON.
WAS AN INJUSTICE FOISTED UPON THE WASH-U MEN'S SOCCER TEAM IN MID DECEMBER UNDER THE CLOUD OF SUSPICION, THE MEN'S SOCCER TEAM WAS SUSPENDED, NOT A FEW OF THEM, ALL MEMBERS, FOR A 2015 ONLINE MEMO THAT APPARENTLY WAS OFFENSIVE AND MAYBE EVEN SEXUAL HARASSMENT.
WELL, EVEN THOSE PLAYERS WHO WERE NOT EVEN AT THE SCHOOL IN 2015 WERE SUSPENDED.
THIS PAST WEEK, THE UNIVERSITY ANNOUNCED, WELL, AFTER THE SUSPENSION, WE INVESTIGATED THE MATTER AND WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS NO VIOLATION OR SEXUAL HARASSMENT FM SOME OF THE EMAILS WERE OFFENSIVE, BUT SOME OF THE SOCCER PLAYERS WERE TRYING TO DISSUADE THEIR TEAMMATES FROM ENGAGING IN THIS BEHAVIORS ABOUT DO YOU THINK THAT WASH U REALLY MESSED UP IN THIS CASE?
>> NOT AT ALL.
JUST LIKE I CAN'T GO INTO POLITICS BECAUSE I CAN'T JUMP ON SOMEBODY, BUT I COULDN'T BE A HEAD COACH OR ATHLETIC DIRECTOR BECAUSE WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENED AND IT WAS NOT DURING THE SEASON, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT DECISION, I WOULD SAY YOU'RE ALL SUSPENDED UNTIL I GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS.
THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.
THAT'S BECAUSE I'M RUNNING A PROGRAM WHERE EVERYBODY KNOWS I'M NOT PUTTING UP WITH IT, ZERO, NOT PUTTING UP WITH IT.
AND BECAUSE A POEM -- >> IT ABOUT THE REPUTATIONS OF ALL PLAYERS -- >> I WOULD TELL YOU THAT, THAT IF YOU ARE ON MY TEAM AND YOUR TEAMMATES GET INVOLVED IN SOMETHING AND I READ IT AND I'M OFFENDED BY IT, I DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYBODY -- >> BUT IT'S -- WHAT'S WRONG WITH SENDING SOMETHING OFFENSIVE?
>> I THINK WASH U ITSELF HANDLED A VOLUME WILL TILL SITUATION RIGHT WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF HOW THEY HAVE TO HANDLE IT, BUT WHAT HAPPENED IS, THE OPTICS OF IT WERE VERY POOR BECAUSE IT BECAME A NATIONAL STORY.
THE HEADLINES MADE IT SOUND LIKE SOMETHING MUCH MORE THAN IT WAS.
I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION DID THE BEST THEY COULD WITH A BAD SITUATION, BUT THE WAY THESE THINGS PLAY OUT, IT WAS TERRIBLE OPTICS AND THAT, I THINK, WAS UNFAIR TO THE MEN'S SOCCER TEAM.
>> BUT WHAT'S WRONG WITH INVESTIGATING AND THEN DECIDING IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A SUSPENSION?
>> WELL, THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF A SOCCER TEAM IN DECEMBER WHEN THEY'RE NOT PLAYING SOCCER, IT WOULD BE LIKE TALKING ABOUT SUSPENDING THE CARDINALS FOR A WEEK RIGHT NOW.
THEY'RE NOT EVEN MAPLAYING, SO THEY BASICALLY SUSPENDED AN INACTIVE ACTIVITY.
>> AND STILL ALL THESE OTHER INSTANCES OF DOMESTIC ASSAULT AND SEXUAL HARASSMENT HAPPENING ELSEWHERE, I THINK THEY JUMP THE GUN A LITTLE BIT ON THIS ONE.
>> I AGREE.
>> BUT I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT -- >> THEY WERE CAUGHT IN A NO-WIN SITUATION.
>> BUT NOTHING HAPPENED.
YOU SAID SOMETHING WAS SENT BY THE EMAIL WITH SOME TEAMMATES AND SOME OF THE OTHERS -- >> LET'S GO THROUGH THE LETTERS AND SEE WHAT THE VIEWERS HAD TO SAY ABOUT LAST WEEK'S PROGRAM.
WE HEARD FROM CONNIE WHO WROTE, WENDY SAYING THAT ST.
LOUIS AS MAJOR CITY, TOP 10, 20, 30, 4050.
ST.
LOUIS WAS A MAJOR CITY, BUT NOT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
WE ALSO HEARD FROM MA THAT.
SHE WROTE TRUMP WON THE ELECTION BECAUSE DEBBIE WASSERMAN, THE THEN HEAD OF DNC, SABOTAGED THE NOMINATION OF BERNIE SANDERS IN FAVOR OF HILLARY.
AND WE HEARD FROM MORE FOREWRENS GAFFNEY WHO WROTE, WOMEN SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE THE RIGHT TO PROTEST.
SHAME ON YOU, CHARLIE.
YOU CAN WRITE US CARE OF KETC, 3655 OLIVE STREET, ST.
LOUIS, MISSOURI 63108.
DON'T FORGET THE EMAILS, [email protected] AND THOSE TWEETS, #DONNYBROOKSTL, WHICH ALVIN AND RAY ARE GOING TO BE READING IN A MATTER OF MOMENTS ON YOUR TURN.
THANKS TO STACY WASHINGTON AND DJ WILSON FOR SITTING IN THIS WEEK.
DON'T GO AWAY BECAUSE RAY AND ALVIN WILL BE RIGHT BACK.
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